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    Re: Civilian Bullpup Rifle Question

    I agree. I think one of the drawbacks and turnoffs for a lot of people are the generally terrible triggers. I have had 3 bullpups and by far, the worst trigger ever was on a Mossberg Bullpup shotgun.

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    Re: Civilian Bullpup Rifle Question

    As far as the Magpul design goes it need more then a 16" barrel.
    The action takes up 7.5" according to their spec page.
    7.5" + 16" = 23.5"
    That is 2.5" short of being federally legal as a rifle.
    So to make it valid to the civilian market, it will need a 16" barrel with a 2" muzzle break pinned in place, or an 18" barrel.
    An 18" barrel would only make it 6-8" longer then the pictures they show.


    I think the main draw back to the bullpup is there is not enough out there in a reasonable price range to create interest.
    They get regulated to the field of SCI FI and ultra elite.

    According to the research I am doing right now on bullpuping an AK...there are bullpup kits being looked at by the military for the M1a, the FAL, Israels Tovar is being fielded as a potential replacement for the AR.
    I think that maybe bullpups are starting to actually make some headway.
    People want shorter rifles, with more power, with at least the same accuracy.
    The bullpup is the only way to make that happen.

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    Re: Civilian Bullpup Rifle Question

    Quote Originally Posted by h2obouget
    As far as the Magpul design goes it need more then a 16" barrel.
    The action takes up 7.5" according to their spec page.
    7.5" + 16" = 23.5"
    That is 2.5" short of being federally legal as a rifle.
    So to make it valid to the civilian market, it will need a 16" barrel with a 2" muzzle break pinned in place, or an 18" barrel.
    An 18" barrel would only make it 6-8" longer then the pictures they show.


    I think the main draw back to the bullpup is there is not enough out there in a reasonable price range to create interest.
    They get regulated to the field of SCI FI and ultra elite.

    According to the research I am doing right now on bullpuping an AK...there are bullpup kits being looked at by the military for the M1a, the FAL, Israels Tovar is being fielded as a potential replacement for the AR.
    I think that maybe bullpups are starting to actually make some headway.
    People want shorter rifles, with more power, with at least the same accuracy.
    The bullpup is the only way to make that happen.
    Yea i realized I was "short" in my comment. :P Thanks for the correction. I've seen some of the M1A Bulldog videos. a fal bullpup would be pretty cool especially with no reciprocating handle.

    I guess the owner of CD is reviving his company as Trans World whatever. So there's still some hope about the Tavor.

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    Re: Civilian Bullpup Rifle Question

    desert tactical arms makes a nice bullpup rifle, has the ability to change calibers and offers different barrel lengths. great looking gun and awesome shooter. here's a link and Top Notch Tactical in auburn is a distributor for them.

    http://www.deserttacticalarms.com/guns/ ... ifles.html


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    Re: Civilian Bullpup Rifle Question

    Quote Originally Posted by 30-06springfield
    http://www.cbrps.com/
    those setups with the saiga 12 and draco are wicked.

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    Re: Civilian Bullpup Rifle Question

    There was a guy a few SHOT shows ago who was doing an M1A bullpup design.



    I am a big M1A fan..this thing was a bag of assholes IMO. Cheap, flimsy and all around piece of shit.


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    Re: Civilian Bullpup Rifle Question

    Quote Originally Posted by CavVet
    There was a guy a few SHOT shows ago who was doing an M1A bullpup design.



    I am a big M1A fan..this thing was a bag of assholes IMO. Cheap, flimsy and all around piece of shit.
    Did you go to shot cav? I think that was the bulldog. I'm not sold on the build quality based on pictures...looks like someone punched some holes into some sheet metal and wedged a m1a in there.

    pricey too

    but what i find interesting is that rumored M14 PMag. That would be nice to have.

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    Re: Civilian Bullpup Rifle Question

    Quote Originally Posted by 3is
    Quote Originally Posted by 30-06springfield
    http://www.cbrps.com/
    those setups with the saiga 12 and draco are wicked.
    Yes they are makes me want to buy a saiga 12!


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    Re: Civilian Bullpup Rifle Question

    Quote Originally Posted by 3is
    Did you go to shot cav? I think that was the bulldog. I'm not sold on the build quality based on pictures...looks like someone punched some holes into some sheet metal and wedged a m1a in there.

    pricey too

    but what i find interesting is that rumored M14 PMag. That would be nice to have.

    Yes, yes and YES!

    It was sheet metal and it was a pos.


    iirc there was another one but I dont know about its quality. I dont remember ever seeing the other one. This POS was so bad it was all I could do not to laugh in the guys face.

    [quote=30-06springfield]
    Quote Originally Posted by 3is
    Quote Originally Posted by "30-06springfield":27gtzi2t
    http://www.cbrps.com/
    those setups with the saiga 12 and draco are wicked.
    Yes they are makes me want to buy a saiga 12![/quote:27gtzi2t]

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