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    For those that don't run anti-viruses...

    A while back we had a thread where Norm asked about anti-viruses, I don't remember the premise behind it but that's irrelevant to this post. What I do remember is that we had a couple of members who stated that they didn't run AV, and that they were just careful about where they go.

    That said, I want to strongly caution you against that attitude and here's why. This morning I logged onto my favorite primal website and my anti-virus went nuts.

    This website: www.marksdailyapple.com

    I have visited this website daily for the last couple of months, and have visited it on and off since the middle of 2011 with NO problems. Not even a hiccup, not a warning, nothing. This morning, not so much. Like I said before, I went and my AV went nuts. A couple of hours later I checked the website on my phone and it had been pulled. A couple of hours after that this message was posted on the site.

    Boy, there’s nothing more fun than waking up to a hacked website. What a way to start a day. In fact, I may have to work that into the Primal Blueprint laws. Law #11: Frequently Experience Site Outages Resulting in Mass Hysteria and Panic. All kidding aside, you may have noticed that Mark’s Daily Apple was experiencing some technical difficulties today. It appears the site was hacked. While my team of technicians ensures that Mark’s Daily Apple is running the most secure and up-to-date versions of WordPress (the blog platform MDA is built on) and associated software, hackers have a way of finding and exploiting previously unknown security vulnerabilities. Darn those hackers. Luckily, it appears everything is back to normal now. Thank you for your patience, and for your alerts to those of you that emailed me. Now back to our regularly scheduled programming…

    Read more: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/technica ... z1lkdAUa4l
    The moral of the story is I visited a trusted website today, and that website tried to inject a piece of malware onto my PC. Who knows what that piece of malware did, but since ID theft is RAMPANT I'm positive it was something ready to nick your CC numbers, or various user names and passwords(like a keylogger) Its not about just being careful where you go.

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    Re: For those that don't run anti-viruses...

    That is exactly why you need more than just antivirus protection.

    Malwarebytes.com has one of the best anti malware systems out there, and the nice thing is that you can be protected for a low one-time fee, unlike others out there that nick you with a fee every year.

    There is no such thing as a safe site anymore, as sites can have malware injected into their ads, or even other ways from what I've heard.

    If you go that route, don't waste your time with the free version. It will only scan your computer manually, and won't stop threats in real time, like the pro version....

    From their website:

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    If viruses are mischief, malware is mayhem. Malware doesn’t just want to disrupt your network, it wants your keystrokes, logins, passwords, address book, data, credit card information, favorite t-shirt and possibly your cat.

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    Re: For those that don't run anti-viruses...

    Or buy a Mac and care less about malware

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    Re: For those that don't run anti-viruses...

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    Re: For those that don't run anti-viruses...

    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyL
    Or buy a Mac and care less about malware
    Macs aren't quite impervious to malware and viruses, although they do have less vulnerabilites than a PC.

    http://lifehacker.com/5800267/the-non+a ... protection

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    Re: For those that don't run anti-viruses...

    Quote Originally Posted by BillJohnson
    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyL
    Or buy a Mac and care less about malware
    Macs aren't quite impervious to malware and viruses, although they do have less vulnerabilites than a PC.

    http://lifehacker.com/5800267/the-non+a ... protection
    Not quite. Macs are just as vulnerable... there is only one reason why Mac seems to be less susceptible, and thats because they own only a very small piece of the total PC market. What malware author wants to take the time to write a complicated program to steal the personal info of only 5% of the total market?

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    Re: For those that don't run anti-viruses...

    I recently had the same problem with a couple of my OWN websites. The company that hosts them had some kind of breach, either due to compromised accounts, unpatched servers, or something...but the default page on every one of my domains hosted with them was infected with several malware javascript strings. That's all it takes, a single line added to an html file, and you're serving viruses instead of cat pictures...uh, I mean hardcore porn...really nasty hardcore porn, with midgets and bowling pins.

    This is a no bullshit scenario, the internet is swarming with more viruses than a crackwhore's scabby vagina. If you don't have AV installed, whether you're using PC, Mac, Linux, or whatever, you're already infected...you just don't know it.

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    Re: For those that don't run anti-viruses...

    Quote Originally Posted by RapmasterT
    I recently had the same problem with a couple of my OWN websites. The company that hosts them had some kind of breach, either due to compromised accounts, unpatched servers, or something...but the default page on every one of my domains hosted with them was infected with several malware javascript strings. That's all it takes, a single line added to an html file, and you're serving viruses instead of cat pictures...uh, I mean hardcore porn...really nasty hardcore porn, with midgets and bowling pins.

    This is a no bullshit scenario, the internet is swarming with more viruses than a crackwhore's scabby vagina. If you don't have AV installed, whether you're using PC, Mac, Linux, or whatever, you're already infected...you just don't know it.
    You're right on the money here.... I have also had malicious code attacks from SGN, that was alerted and stopped by malwarebytes anti-malware..... Maybe the hosting site for SGN has been infected too?

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    Re: For those that don't run anti-viruses...

    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyL
    Or buy a Mac and care less about malware
    wrong ...

    I've owned Macs since 1984, when the first one came out, and ever since - worked for Apple in the early 90's and recently 10 yrs. at MSFT, 5 yrs. in security research - I assure you, there are plenty of malware for Macs and much of it is web based now, therefore less platform dependent - more are targeting add-on/plug-in things like Java and Adobe/Flash-Acrobat which near everyone runs.

    Almost like saying date less attractive women and you won't catch (or transmit) STDs - it's just not true. (No harm was intended to unattractive women with this statment, it's just an analogy, ok?)

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